How do you get too old for a hot hatch?

"CalzoneGolem" (calzonegolem) 11/01/2018 at 12:09 • Filed to: None

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Also ... 30 is old?

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Berang > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:16

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Suggest that munster coffin dragster

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:17

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Peoples’ tastes change over time. At least I could agree with pretty much every recommendation this time around - even if the Transporter was a meme choice, it’s still valid.

Wacko > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:17

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30 Is  still young!

That being said, I’m in my last year of my 30s....my car budget went to the house and kids....

vondon302 > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:19

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Lol! My wife’s 49 and drives a FOST.

I guess we're Young at heart or juvenile still.

CalzoneGolem > Berang 11/01/2018 at 12:19

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Yes! Dragula is always the right choice.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:20

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As a 40 year-old owner of a FieSTa, I would *NOT* be looking to get rid of it if I didn’t have to drive 6 1/2 miles on rutted, washboard- y dirt roads to get to pavement. Even then, I might have just gotten the M-Sport gravel rally suspension package, except that in the spring the mud can be >6 inches deep :/ Also, Mrs. BoostAddict hates riding in it on the dirt... I can’t say I blame her, it’s a loud, bashy, and sometimes cringe-inducing experience :(

CalzoneGolem > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 11/01/2018 at 12:21

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The suggestions are actually pretty reasonable now that you mention it. I expected more turbo Subaru. 

CalzoneGolem > Wacko 11/01/2018 at 12:22

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I’m in my second to last year of my thirties and I’m totally down for a hot hatch.

The Dummy Gummy > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:22

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Needs change. I need more space with two kids. Hot hatch ain’t going to cut it. Another caveat, that I don’t buy into, is perception . At my job as you grow in ranks it would be perceived childish. It’s stupid, but if you want to get more money you play buy the dumb rules. 

CalzoneGolem > vondon302 11/01/2018 at 12:23

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No ... you’re doing it right it’s these kids that are wrong!

Wacko > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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But not a rust bucket Mazda.  I already had a protege5 so....

bhtooefr > The Dummy Gummy 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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I mean, in plenty of other parts of the world, people use cars that size or even smaller as family cars - the whole point of the Mk1 Golf GTI was that it was possible to use as a family car, yet fun too...

winterlegacy, here 'till the end > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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I’d hazard the reason that why all of them are fine is because Torch didn’t make a suggestion this time around.

Rock Bottom > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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Y ou’re only young once, but you can be immature forever.

CalzoneGolem > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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This is a reasonable reason to get rid of your hot hatch.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:24

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I have two big (70+ lb) dogs that I frequently drive around. I usually just fold the back seats down in my MS3, which works perfectly. I’d like something that either has fold-flat seats with a pass-thru trunk or is a hatch/wagon so I can do the same. I also drive to the mountain a lot, and much prefer a larger car over a sedan.

Since I live in the Pacific Northwest and visit the mountains a lot, all-wheel-drive is a must. As for budget I can go up to $40,000.

It’s every stereotype lumped together so good.

Get a loaded Outback... $40k goes POOF

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > vondon302 11/01/2018 at 12:25

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My mother’s husband (I don’t call him “ step dad” because they didn’t get married until well after I was an independent adult) is 74, and drives a FOST. She used to drive a B5 Audi S4 until a spinal fusion surgery at 68   made it too painful for her to drive manual.

JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:25

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I know :(

Milky > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:25

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Reminds me of a friend’s, friend who bought a new rogue. We asked her why, we ll she wants kids and a little SUV is great for that.

She was single.

CalzoneGolem > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 11/01/2018 at 12:26

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This was begging for some turbo Subbie answers.

CalzoneGolem > Rock Bottom 11/01/2018 at 12:26

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I have this tattooed on my ass.

CalzoneGolem > winterlegacy, here 'till the end 11/01/2018 at 12:28

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I thought Raph’s suggestion was Torch’s at first. I had to go back and look now to make sure it wasn’t haha.

Rock Bottom > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:28

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That’s as good a place as any, I suppose 

CalzoneGolem > Wacko 11/01/2018 at 12:28

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Protege 5 is so sex.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:29

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Hot hatches are timeless and I refuse to comform to societal norms when it comes to cars . However there is a spectrum inside the category and people’s tastes change with age. In my 30s now I am more intrigued by the GolfR. 10 years back I would have thought the Civic Type R was hot shit but now I hate the looks. I am sure there are many 40 year olds with cars eho still daily a a focus RS or an STi( not a hatch anymore but competition)

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:29

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I turn 30 next year.

I want my yellow FoST to be my company car for as long as I can swing it.

Everyone else using their budget on silver honda accords is doing it wrong. 

random001 > Wacko 11/01/2018 at 12:29

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I’ve got less than three month’s left...

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:29

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I saw a 50 ish year old guy driving an RF miata yesterday. You are never too old for fun.

ranwhenparked > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:30

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I’m 33, so, y es 30 is old.

Evidence: I drive a Lincoln Town Car. 

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 11/01/2018 at 12:30

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I vote gravel spec rally suspension. Rally all the things

CalzoneGolem > Milky 11/01/2018 at 12:32

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A Kia Soul is great for kids. 

CalzoneGolem > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 11/01/2018 at 12:32

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Shhh no tears.

facw > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:33

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I don’t think you should age out of those things, but I do think if you are using the car to drive people for work, you may get judged a little bit. That said, as long as you aren’t driving something with a silly huge wing, extreme stance, or loud aftermarket exhaust , I think you’re fine. Most people won’t know the difference, and those who do will probably think it is cool. Your average person seeing a MS3 isn’t going to think “ ha! look at that boy racer” they are going to think “yep, that sure is a Japanese economy car” or maybe “wow I didn’t realize that modern cars could still rust like that ”.

CalzoneGolem > ranwhenparked 11/01/2018 at 12:33

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I’ve always driven old man cars.

CalzoneGolem > facw 11/01/2018 at 12:33

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Ouch that last one tho.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:34

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I have this tattooed on your mom’s ass. /immaturityracetothebottom //IYKWIM

CalzoneGolem > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 11/01/2018 at 12:35

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Well yeah it is the family motto after all.

CobraJoe > Wacko 11/01/2018 at 12:35

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I still want to build a Protege5 into my dream vehicle: A RWD, V8, 300ish hp, manual, lightweight mini-wagon.

It’s a near impossible dream...  and the Protege5 isn’t a fun vehicle to work on... but still. 

Svend > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:37

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For some it’s more to do with the harshness of the ride of some hot hatches, they just want a bit more comfort.

My previous car was a 1.4TSi 123bhp Skoda Superb Mk2 estate.

She didn’ t want for power, super comfy seats, masses of interior space.

Of course, now I’m 39, I’d like something a bit sportier, like a Vauxhall Corsa VXR.

ranwhenparked > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:45

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Yeah, pretty much the same here. I just like being comfortable. 

CalzoneGolem > Svend 11/01/2018 at 12:50

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I’m pretty sure I’d have a Skoda if they were offered here.

My Forester will have to be close enough.

CalzoneGolem > ranwhenparked 11/01/2018 at 12:52

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I’m fairly uncoordinated so a I’m not killing apexes or whatever. Comfort is definitely one of the most critical features for my car to have.

jimz > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 12:54

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Old?  Shit, I was almost 30 when I bought my SRT-4.  

OPPOsaurus WRX > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:00

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Rav4.  if 30 is too old for a hot hatch he deserves something beige.  I was going to say corolla, but i’m giving him a little ground clearance for the construction site.  

Wacko > CobraJoe 11/01/2018 at 13:00

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They made awd Protege5 in other markets so rwd wouldn’t be so crazy 

TheRealBicycleBuck > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:01

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I didn’t buy my hot hatch until I was in my 40s. I bought it because it is fast, fun, and has enough room for my wife and  kids. I guess if your car has to be the “big” car, a hot hatch doesn’t work. But in my house, my wife had the SUV, so we didn’t need a second big car.

Svend > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:05

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The Skoda Octavia is a great all rounder.

Basic no frills Octavia S, 1.0TSi.

Mid range, SE L

Luxury, Laurent & Klement

Sporty, vRS 2.0TSi 242 bhp

Crossover, Scout

Manual/automatic

Petrol/diesel

5 door hatchback or estate

FatherMcKenzie > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:06

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The lack of a Mazda6 wagon suggestion  bothered me. Like, come on, it was so obvious.

CalzoneGolem > FatherMcKenzie 11/01/2018 at 13:11

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Can you get an AWD 6 wagon?

The Dummy Gummy > bhtooefr 11/01/2018 at 13:15

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That’s the beauty with other parts of the world have different needs.

t0ast > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:30

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Hell no. I’m in my 30s and actively planning on getting *into* that segment.

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:34

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I got married, had a kid, and my cars got crazier and noisier than ever.

Part of it is that I have the luxury of choice (more than I deserve) , the other half is the willpower to keep the hobby alive.

If you want it badly enough, you can find a way to get it. There are fun cars at any price point. To be honest, the Speed3 is not really that noisy or boy-racer, but I understand that he wanted a newer car. Hot hatches are just fine, probably, except the CTR.

bhtooefr > The Dummy Gummy 11/01/2018 at 13:45

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Different choices, I’d argue, not so much different needs. (OK, so some ethnicities tend to be shorter and therefore fit into smaller cars than others, but plenty of Europeans can fit two adults and two kids into what we in America consider a compact car, no problem.)

DasWauto > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 13:55

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If a Mazdaspeed3 has is too harsh for one’s taste,  a turbo Subie is not the answer. - turbo Subie owner

CalzoneGolem > OPPOsaurus WRX 11/01/2018 at 13:56

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No Venza?

CalzoneGolem > jimz 11/01/2018 at 13:57

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Grow up man. 

The Dummy Gummy > bhtooefr 11/01/2018 at 14:03

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If you’ve ever lived outside the country you’d know the needs differ wildly per country. In europe I needed a small car, in asia I needed a scooter. All depends what your surroundings are.

FatherMcKenzie > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 14:50

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Not sure if they were sold in America, but they sure do exist. Plus, to go full Jalop dickhead , that person does not need AWD, they need decent winter tires.

MGS315 > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 15:00

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Hmm. I’m 30 and want to trade my not even that hot hot-hatch for a sports car. Does that mean I’ve gone straight to mid-life crisis?

CalzoneGolem > MGS315 11/01/2018 at 15:10

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Yup. Sorry to be the one to have to inform you.

CalzoneGolem > FatherMcKenzie 11/01/2018 at 15:11

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You don’t need AWD but it  sure is fun.

CaptDale - is secretly British > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 15:19

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I am getting to 30 and want a TVR and a w agon... Cause fast wagon > hatch

TheRealBicycleBuck > The Dummy Gummy 11/01/2018 at 15:21

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I bought my hot hatch because I have two kids I had to drive around and they no longer fit in the back seat of my truck. As for perceptions, screw it! My boss and coworkers know me as an enthusiast who takes his fast car to the track. They still ask me to drive when we have site visits or client meetings. 

FatherMcKenzie > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 15:31

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That I absolutely agree with!

Tristan > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 15:32

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I’m nearing 35 and I desperately want my next car to be a straight-piped V70R 6-speed...

CalzoneGolem > CaptDale - is secretly British 11/01/2018 at 15:33

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This is 100% factual.

AestheticsInMotion > Tristan 11/01/2018 at 15:48

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Same

CalzoneGolem > Tristan 11/01/2018 at 16:00

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Hot wagon > hot hatch

Tristan > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 16:05

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Preach.

Tristan > AestheticsInMotion 11/01/2018 at 16:06

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You’re just missing the R, the AWD and 1 gear...

AestheticsInMotion > Tristan 11/01/2018 at 16:28

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LS swap/rwd conversion you say? Hmm... 

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 16:29

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You don’t. You get too fucking boring.

Tristan > AestheticsInMotion 11/01/2018 at 17:20

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I’m not sure you heard correctly, but I like this version better anyway!

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > CalzoneGolem 11/01/2018 at 22:46

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At 24 I realized I was too old for my straight piped FiST, but I replaced it with a GTI, so... I guess that is of no help. It’s slightly more grown up, but it has launch mode...

duurtlang > bhtooefr 11/02/2018 at 06:05

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My parents had a mk2 Golf (3-door) when I grew up as a teen . 2 adults, 2 teens . All (including my mom) at least 6 feet tall. There was plenty of room, only on multi week holiday trips the trunk was a bit small. I don’t believe they ever even considered a larger car, as there was no need.

cloverworks, aka Mrs. Boost > JawzX2, Boost Addict. 1.6t, 2.7tt, 4.2t 11/05/2018 at 21:30

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He’s only 74?  Why did I think he was 85?  Probably because other than the FOST, he is.  Your poor Mom, though.  Ma Jawz was the genetic source of Jawzx2's Need for Speed.

cloverworks, aka Mrs. Boost > CalzoneGolem 11/05/2018 at 21:35

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My dad would have kept driving fast cars forever, but having two kids cut into the budget, and it never bounced back when he realized that Horsepower+Handling+Kid prone to carsickness (me) = Regrettably-scented car with no resale value .  Ask me to tell you the story of the trip to Maine in a ‘95 Escort Hatch sometime.